I am a fan of the show. I like Kate and am glad that they moved were they wanted to. In all fairness I will say that when I looked at the previews the little green envy monster popped out because it is such a beautiful house (But not like the jealousy woolly mammoth of others.) I just liked the fact that it was big and open. A floor plan that my husband and I both desire to have or build (yes I said build because that is my ultimate dream and goal) when we start looking for houses or land.
Which got me thinking about why is it that people are most happy when they see another person settle or not try to better themselves? I mean I look at my family...I am one of the few people in my families generation that went to school to get a degree. I am one of the two or three that went on to get my masters degree. And now I am in the process of starting on my PhD. Now I didn't divulge this information so I could get a pat on the back or a "well isn't she smart". I said it because there are some in my family that want me to fail. Not because they are mean but because I chose to rise out of the status quo and want to do better. I want to be able to live "comfortably" and not have to worry about money. I want to go on vacation and see some of the great wonders of the world, but if all my husband and I do is settle then what's the point. Some of my family don't understand that and that's fine, but like Kate says, "It's our life" and we will do with it whatever we please. So (I am back on subject now) what I don't understand is when Jon and Kate do the same they are being manipulative...or living off the back of their kids. Now I may not agree with showing them taking a dump on TV but I do understand why. Just like I understand why they are doing the show. They want to better themselves and as Kate has said before "I don't have to worry about how we are going to pay for the lights this month." And for that I say...go on sister do your thing.
Then I got thinking (sorry I was up early and had nothing else to do because you know we all only get one channel and because the remote was across the room and my infant son was playing I couldn't change the channel so I was forced to watch an episode :} )about what some people have said on different boards that have popped up on Jon and Kate. Why is that people are so jealous of these two? Is it because their life is so miserable, their job is so torturous, that they want others to wallow in their pool of misery too? Sorry but I hate to be the one to tell you, but I am not going to hold myself down and stick with the status quo because that is what everyone else is doing or what my family has done in the past. I get it...some of you out there just don't like them....get over it. I really don't feel like reading how you and 30 of your closest relatives all lived in a 500 sq. foot home and lived like Bear (off of Man vs. Wild) and ate fresh dew for breakfast, caught your lunch by hand and ate it after making the fire by hand and then settle into some tree bark for dinner because heaven forbid you would spend the money you make on food...let alone healthy food. (By the way and this is totally off the topic but I totally love watching Man vs. Wild but not as much as Survivorman. I know strange isn't it...I am not one of those totally obsessed fans that has to write down every second of the show. I actually like to use my remote and see what else cable has to offer. I mean they have over 300 channels yet some would think there is only one.)
And while I am on the subject of the new house...Why would anyone care that this woman got a new fridge? So what? If I had the money I would. I am just now realizing that my kids are growing up way too fast and can go through a box of cereal in 3 days if I let them. (And that is when they are just eating it for breakfast.) My point being is that it is not just her and Jon. They have eight kids to provide for and let me tell you when your kid hits a growth spurt (because mine is in one now) they can eat you out of house and home. So if the woman wants to get a sub-zero fridge than so be it. And why does it matter that she had someone move her stuff in. I will have to say that if I had enough money I would have done the same. I only got a professional moving company to carry the furniture from my previous place to the new one, but stopped short of movers.
In essence when it comes to Kate does it really matter? Do people care that much about her life or is it just another thing to bitch and moan about? What do you think? How extreme do you think people will get before someone truly crosses the line?
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I agree, I too was a bit jealous, but I am happy for the kids who deserve the chance to run around on expansive grounds. I've always been a huge fan of the show, until recently where I now find myself on the fence. In the past I identified with a larger-than-most family and the tiffs her and- Jon shared, but now I find myself no longer dreaming of being her BFF. My gripe is not necessarily the money (the children are benefiting too), it's not the travel (Jon and Kate should just drop the stay-at-home title, obviously they have a job outside of the home), it's Kate's attitude. She truly seems to lack the joy she claims to have and her treatment of Jon is less than desirable. I just wish the "Christian" card was not played in one scene and her tyrannic spells in the next. In one aspect I applaud TLC for showcasing Christian families in a "real" and imperfect light but at the same time they seem to edit the shows to try and make the Duggars look like idiots and Kate look like a witch (I believe the Roloffs have been somewhat unscathed). I just wonder sometimes if it is hurting the witness of these families. Regardless, I'm just glad I don't have a TV crew in my house, they could edit my day to make me Public Enemy #1. Again thanks for sharing your heart and "a balanced view" of things.
I think it is great that Jon and Kate don't have to worry about money. They live under extraordinary circumstances and need to do what it takes to raise their kids.
As far as the refrigerator goes if I had taken one look at the insides I never would have spent 4 minutes cleaning it let alone 4 hours. I would have just bought a new one. And I am not the clean freak Kate is. Something about a moldy fridge turns my stomach.
I've said this before, but I really don't think that the haters are driven by jealousy. Sure, maybe a little, who wouldn't want a cool free vacation. Maybe it started with jealousy, but it has completely turned into this obsessive hatred. They HATE Jon and Kate SO MUCH, yet they can't help watching, although many claim they don't, I believe most do. But they go further than just watching and hating, it's crazy stalker type research and then posting to forums constantly about the same hateful things over and over again. It stems from jealousy but has turned into an obsession fueled by hate.
Hello,It's not that I'm jealous of Kate.But she showed her real self when she went on and on about how gross her new house was. My heart went out to the old owners.They must have felt horrible. Shame on her!
I agree with dianne about the previous owners, it just wasn't necessary for Kate to diminish them in that way going on about a dirty refrigerator (that she ended up switching out anyway). I guess she's used to that behavior with Jon, but it wouldn't kill her to be a little more charitable to the old owner. I think the hate has almost nothing to do with jealousy, I think the hate becomes a past time, something for people to do, a bond they form. This a family they don't like, they find others who feel the same and form sort of an anti-fan club (much like the ones who love them and find each other and form fan sites). I find both sides equally interesting. But I just haven't found enough 'love' to become a fan nor enough 'hate' to become a hater.
Ive been a "lurker" for awhile now but just wanted to add my two cents, I watch the show and sometimes get abit annoyed at Kate and some of the things she says and how she treats Jon, but at the end of the day its their marriage and they seem to work it all out. We can all sit here and speculate on this and that about them but, I think most of us DONT know whats its like to raise that many kids and mostly of the same age like that. I know its said she is on tv and opens herself to being in the public eye blah blah blah but, I really believe she loves those kids and has ALL their best intrest at heart.I look at my partner and just laugh at her when she pulls her "too clean" act . I dont think its right for people to come on here and hate them and bash their children. Well thats my two cents have a good day everyone :)
Its me the last post with the 'two cents' I wanted to say one more thing
we allsee a very short portion of what is taped and not taped, we really dont see their lives in detail. Do you think ? Its snips out a day , what happens to rest of that day?... I guess I just cant belive people will go that far saying such mean things about people they dont really know .... again, have a good day everyone :)
WHAT HAPPENED TO KATE'S FRIEND BETH? I NEVER SEE HER ANYMORE?
We never see Aunt Jodi either.
Why is it jealousy to be disturbed because someone has moved to a mansion that was paid for with their children's privacy?
Why is it jealousy to be concerned because three little boys are hearing over and over that they are "icky" and "gross", or because an eight year old has been portrayed in such a negative way that there are hate groups formed using her name?
Being concerned, upset, disturbed, and even outraged by what goes on on the show week after week, is not a matter of jealousy. That's such an easy answer. Unfortunately, while it may be true for a very small group of people, most of those accused of it, wouldn't trade their children's childhood for any mansion under the sun.
I am not the least bit jealous of Kate nor do I hate her.
She is going to have to face those kids as adults and explain why her greed was more important to her than their dignity.
I wonder how she can ever explain that.
Denise, why was Kate greedy? I guess all moms are then, if they want to better their childrens lives. I just can imagine anyone wanting to move to larger home with that many kids, and if they have the money why not? Are they taking food away from their family to give them this home? I havent heard anyone say anything bad about Beth she had a large home, and could watch the kids for Kate when needed. I think everyone should mind thier own business and not worry so much what Jon and Kate are doing and where they are living. So what? She is quirky and so? we all are at some point.
I am happy that Jon and Kate have a new house with lots of room for 8 growing children. I don't understand all the haters. One of the reasons that I love the show is that Jon and Kate are themselves, and they show the good, the bad and the ugly. C'mon--admit it--not much different from what is going on in most of our households. Stay real Gosselins!
I don't think people complain about the gosselins out of jealousy - I think people complain because they are so unlikeable and because they have sold their children's privacy! Its so hard to have sympathy for them when they treat each other so badly - how are they a role model for a healthy happy family?? The entire show is one big commercial with all its product placement. But - 8 little lives have been compromised!!!!! and that's what all the fans of the show just can't seem to understand.
hmm treat each other so badly? what if the cameras were in our houses people could say the same. Sometimes I snap, sometimes my partner snaps, its life.I think they keep it real.I have to agree I sometimes dont like Kate saying things to Jon the way she does, but its their marriage and it looks like they work it out. We dont know what its like having all those kids. Who said they had to be a role model , I dont think thats why they did the show, in OUR minds I think thats what we THINK they SHOULD be doing. But in the end they are just normal real people living thier lives. I hope that when the show ends at some point it will, those kids will be able to adjust to life without a camera and all those people who know are friends in their lives. Im not here to judge anyones marriage or parenting skills.
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I love the new house and I sincerely think they needed a new place with space to run outdoors and indoors. They could not have afforded even their old house without jon's father's bequest, but I'm happy for the kids.
If I moved into a new, but previously owned house, and I had the money I would take out all the carpets, the toilets, the tubs, the appliances and replace them with new. To me what was bad was the 4 hours supposedly cleaning the old fridge and then getting a new one. But who knows?
My big problem with Jon & Kate (not the kids) and this could be TLC, as well, is that the country is in such terrible shape right now and hard-working people are having to lose their homes and scrape and save for everything. Then we see these two who only seem to have one talent and that is to produce children. They are becoming rich and famous for no other reason, truly. And although we want them and the kids to have what they need and want, we the public shouldn't have it thrown so much in our faces week after week. It rubs people the wrong way.
And most people think Kate's abrasive personality is just that of an ungrateful person. Most think she is super-rude to her husband. That's my opinion. And that is also why she is begrudged all the free stuff the family has been given. If she were nicer and sweeter and seemed to be grateful at all to the public, I don't think people would be up in arms.
I love the dogs. I hope they love the dogs, too. We had a GSD for years and they are so sweet.
Well, here's my answer about the new fridge. Of course, I don't care what she puts her cold food in. Doesn't affect my life at all.
I and others probably RESENT the fact that the phoniness is right in your face. Look at how hard I have to scrub, scrub, scrub this totally filthy fridge that the other owners left. Poor me.
Next, we see the fridge in the basement and a new one in the kitchen. Yes, the new one looks better to me, because I like stainless appliances. However, do SOMETHING more entertaining with the show, than show a woman complaining about four hours of scrubbing, when the truth was, she wasn't even keeping that one in the kitchen. I guess people feel duped, tricked....and they see the results on the next show. I think that's how normal people feel about that subject. Geesh....give us a REALITY show that is actually not insulting our intelligence. It has NOTHING to do with jealousy, believe me. People don't like to be fed a line.
Exactly my thoughts too BB. I watched it and thought ok only the fridge is dirty? The whole show was about the fridge and no other part of the house. Personally I would have been cleaning or replacing toilets first because they would most likely be used first with 10 people always having to pee and poop. Besides, there did not seem to be any food to put into the fridge at that moment. but that is just me. Anyway, the next couple of shows we see a new fridge and the old one is in the basement never to be mentioned again. Was it that dirty that it was replaced but they still kept the old dirty one? This did not make sense to me and I began to see how phoney and set up some situations were starting to become like the dogs. Kate getting two dogs and the kids are not even allowed to wear shoes in the house? She hates dirt so she gets two dogs? It all seemed so put on for ratings. She is the last person I would ever expect to get two big dogs to add to a family of 10. Even now one of the boys is still very afraid of the dog as seen in last week's show. I am sorry but since the move I find I am more preoccupied with trying to figure out exactly how much money they are pulling in to afford not only this lovely home but how they feed, clothe and plan for the future of 8 children.
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