Sorry for the long absence....you know life has a tendency to well....be life. But I will have to say that I am working on a blog entitled (Truth vs. Fiction) about all the rumors swirling Jon and Kate. Believe it or not it is taking a lot longer than what I thought it would be when I am finished I will post it. Hopefully it will start some good discussions seeing what is happening lately with them. Anyway, I guess you all along with everyone else is seeing all the stuff coming out about Jon and Kate. I want to know what you think of it?
Me? Well...here's my two cents on the whole situation. I believe that Jon did a stupid act and that for a moment in time he thought he was back in college...a lot of guys I know who are thrust into a lot of responsibility in their early twenties tend to want to say "rebel" later on when they have a chance. I have no idea why and to me I think it is the stupidest thing to do (personally I believe they should take up something more recreational and no I am not talking about drugs...sports maybe). I believe that Jon acted like an a** and with that has to come to terms with the consequences that comes with his actions. (Please remember that this is just my opinion). With that being said I do think that it is unfair for others to be starting rumors. I mean put yourself in their shoes for a moment. Would you want other people talking about your marriage and what they think you should do? I know I wouldn't. No body's perfect and everyone makes mistakes...I just feel for Jon and the mistake he did make.
As for Kate...well I will have to say as a woman I feel bad for her. I mean I don't know how she feels but one could only imagine what she is going through. Sometimes the most strongest people can also be the most fragile on the inside. (No in no way am I calling her weak, but when it comes to certain emotions...maybe). We all want our marriage to work when go forth and become married but when you see it in jeopardy that can awaken feelings you haven't admitted or want to admit that you have to deal with.
So with that being said I just want to say to everyone out there in blog land...please think about the children for a moment. Whether you like or dislike Jon and Kate please remember that 8 other people are involved. Do you really think it would benefit anyone for them to part ways? My answer is no. Should they reconsider coming back for another season? My answer is yes...if Jon is feeling "lost" (really Jon...stop pouting and find something productive to do....build your "man cave" or "man barn" go out in and fart, watch TV, play pool, or what else to your hearts content but grow up and deal with your feelings as a man.) Stop the show and deal with the reasons on why you feel "lost". I do understand that as a man you feel you should be "providing" for the household like the bible says one should. But maybe this is the plan God has for you. If so, really think about other ways you can provide for your family. If it has to do with your wife being away so much then you and her need to deal with that. (I will stop talking to Jon like he reads this...but in case he does I just want some reasonable voices heard).
So I am really interested in wanting to know what you think?
3 years ago
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Well, you have given me a lot to think about. I think we think a lot alike. You have a nice way of stating the situation as it is without embellishing or being too judgy. That is *so* needed in the Gosselin blogesphere, so thank you for posting, even if it isn't as frequently as you would like.
I'll give it some thought and post again later. Until then, thanks for your thoughts. I think you have expressed yourself very well.
hmm good comments soccermom, I guess I dont have an answer for them, its their life , their marraige, their family, BUT, I do agree about the kids, they didnt ask to be born, I cant imagine being a Dad of 8 at 28 , but now is the time to step up and be the Dad , not some college kid, I dont judge we have all done stupid things made mistakes. Now is the time to be that Dad you say you are and go to the ends of earth for them. I always thought this of being a Mom , would my kids be embarassed of me doing this or that if the answer was even a slight yes, then forget that idea. I hope as a family its all going to be ok.God has his plan, I trust in that. Good Luck Jon and Kate
I don't know where to start.
These are the thoughts of a 40 year old male school teacher. What a mess.
My wife and children have watched the show for years. I did not start paying attention until some ladies I teach with started talking about the Gosselins moving into a new house. This struck an interest in me because I had heard my family talk about the struggles of the family. About that time was when the Memphis trip to St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital aired. I wondered how they could be so generous. I figured that they were being compensated by sponsors. I had no idea how well they were being compensated until I stumbled across a picture of the house and property that they were moving into. So over the Christmas break I started watching and read all about the Gosselins.
Another reason for my intrigue was a nagging question that I kept asking myself, "What would I do if I were in the exact situation?" I am a Christian so I don't want to judge. I did not want to go down the road of whether or not Kate purposefully had multiples, or how she did it. I strictly wondered what I would have done.
We have recently bought all the DVDs. I have watched all the early shows that showed the family in the house in Wyomissing and the move to Elizabethtown. I have read blogs in local townships in Pennsylvania. I have read old local newspaper articles’ (good and bad) about the Gosselin situation. And today I continue to see all these rumors and gossip magazines spreading "news" of hearsay and half truths. I decided to write my thoughts on this blog because of the balanced opinion you try to keep.
I tell you this history to show that I have done my homework and I feel I know and understand as much as possible. People will think that this is a crazy statement but the Gosselins do a great job of keeping many parts of their family out of the public eye. As well they should. It is very hard to find day to day information about them unlike other public figures. This is good for the kids and their safety. I hope this aspect of the family never changes.
In the beginning I believe the Gosselins were young, naïve, whimsical, and in love. I do not want to write a long dissertation about the Gosselin’s psyche. But, I believe these descriptives led this family to where they are today. I am going to steal a line from Tom Cruise and say that Jon and Kate “complete” each other. Think about it, structured and unstructured- scheduled and off the cuff- disciplined and undisciplined- obsessive and laid back. There are many other examples of how Jon and Kate’s characteristics (good and bad) complement the other.
Their inability to have children caused them both to have a reckless attitude. This reckless approach is not entirely a bad thing. It led to Cara and Mady for the Gosselins. Many parents have thrown all else to the side in an attempt to have children. This is a good thing. I would have done the same for my two beautiful girls.
The sextuplet’s pregnancy is a matter of opinion. I could argue both sides of that story for days. Regardless of one’s opinion on the sextuplet pregnancy, the matter is pointless and redundant. These six wonderful children are here. We will leave that argument for another day.
I also do not wish to discuss the time period after the sextuplet’s birth and the beginning of the series. There are many truths, lies, and rumors about this time. I encourage others to research and form there own opinion on this subject. I will say this; good and bad decisions were made during this time period. Unfortunately, many people formed their complete opinion on this family by these decisions. (No, I am not going to discuss grandparents, family, and friends.)
The struggles of the family are well documented. There should be no argument here. The Discovery Channel arrives and films the first documentary. The first hour show starts a little buzz. A year later The Discovery Channel decides to film the second documentary. The buzz turned into water cooler talk. The documentaries turn into a series and the next thing you see is, “Ten Little Pumpkins” parading on the Discovery Health Channel. The past four seasons has allowed us to as Kate explained, “Peek in their window”. Unfortunately, that peek turned many us into full blown peeping toms.
You asked for opinions. Let me ask the readers this question. Why did you start watching the show? Many watched out of curiosity. The curiosity was over many different things. Watchers thought the kids were cute. Some watched to see how Kate would act or treat Jon. Many watched just to see how they managed such a massive number of children. The early shows were genuine, honest, and innocent. Some people will argue that point. I understand why. But, in my opinion when you compare the early season’s shows with today’s shows these words are obviously true. Why do you watch the show today? Is it for the same reason?
So now I return to the question that has haunted me since I started watching this show. What would I do? I would do whatever it takes to put food on the table, and a roof over my children’s head. If my teaching salary did not cover the expenses, then I would have found a second job. If the second job put undo stress on me and my family, then I would have looked for alternatives. If in the end that meant allowing a television crew to enter my house and film my family’s life for a few days a week, so be it. I can not point a finger and ridicule the Gosselins. I myself would have done the same thing. Would I have done things differently? Hind sight is 20/20. I truly believe that at that time Jon and Kate did what they thought was the best for their family. Was this the easy route for Jon and Kate and did they explore all avenues. I don’t know and can not form an opinion. But let me say this. I myself opted not to return to graduate school. I decided to stay home and spend time with my family. I did not want to spend the time and money upgrading my education. If I would have my family would be better off financially and that is a big deal with the current state of affairs. Will you judge me for my decision the same way as others have judged Jon and Kate?
So. What should be done? That is a matter of perspective and is wide open to debate. I feel the family is in good shape financially speaking. Many Americans get to watch and then blog their feelings on the family. The Gosselin children will most likely have their education paid. Kate is establishing a career by writing and speaking. There are even rumors of Kate entertaining possible talk show options. Jon is trying to find his place. And the Discovery Company is making fistfuls of cash. Did you notice that each of these previous examples have massive, underlying flaws. Each example comes with a massive price and I am not just talking about money. In a recent article in People Magazine Jon admitted, “This struggle has definitely put some tension in our marriage.” The Learning Channel defends its position by exclaiming that the family no longer must worry about finances and that the parents can spend more time with the children. This is being said while Kate travels all over the country speaking and signing books. And Jon is visiting college towns and college bars.
It is time for the show to end. It hurts me deeply to admit this. My family and I love to keep up with this family. My daughters look forward to each new show. They discuss the conversations that the Gosselin children have and repeat each word throughout the week. Alexis and her “al-der-gator” to Aaden being an “el-phant”.
We love it all. But at what cost do we allow ourselves to watch a family fall apart.
It is time for Jon and Kate to pull the plug on the cameras for a while. Jon and Kate have accomplished what they set out to do. Everyone is fed and sheltered. The Discovery Company has made some money while helping the Gosselins. The show has been a win, win for both sides. If Jon and Kate do not think it is the proper time to stop film the executives at the Discovery Company could step forward and do the right thing. Money is not the bottom line in all situations. The Discovery Company could do follow-up episodes to show how the family is doing as the children progress through school. I just hope the right thing is done for the family.
Remember how I earlier described the couple as being in love. I believe love can endure for all those who truly fall in love. Some couples allow outside influences to cause their love to drift apart. If a chasm has formed between Jon and Kate, it is now possible for these outside influences to be removed. Love for their children could bridge any valley that has developed. It is up to Jon and Kate to make that decision. But through all this mess, love does remain the same.
RTR Great comments and good insight. I have posted earlier and this blog I do too think Kate from the start was really inlove with Jon, its just from seeing her and how she acted in their home videos.I agree they do blance each other out, and the bickering well I tend to think its normal for some couples, thats how they communicate with each other. I find some days with my partner is some bickering and weeks go by with none.So like I said in earlier posts its not fair for ppl to judge a snipit of a show, maybe they chose to show that part of the day when there was some going on. Who knows. Something I dont get tho , and maybe Im being naive , for wanting to spend so much time together why are the parents doing so much travel? But in the end I wish the for best for this family and thier kids I hope Jon and Kate find thier places and feel secure with them. Balance is the name of the game in my book. Good Luck Gosselins. Keep the faith.
I think RTR hit the nail on the head; it's time for Jon & Kate to focus on their marriage and their family - in private. I LOVE their show and began watching because I get frustrated many days just like Kate and I can feel her pain...and I ONLY HAVE TWO BOYS...one that is the same age as Mady and Cara and one that is the same age as the sextuplets...so I just can't even imagine. What I am afraid of is that the things we are hearing in the news now is real. It seems to mean that Jon & Kate relationship has changed ~ in the interview seat ~ it's like they are just going through the motions to get through them. I fear that once next week's episode airs we're going to discover that they have been having problems (and of course these tapes were made MONTHS ago) and that they've been lying low under the season ends. I fear that after next week airs, the media will discover that they are separated. I could even feel a touch of distance between Jon & Kate when Jon made reference to Cara missing her mom while they were in Utah (I found it a little odd that he didn't say Cara was missing Kate) Not sure why, but I just found that a little odd...I hope I'm completely wrong and that they are able to work it out and then maybe they could even offer advice on how that worked for them...hopefully it will be a story of getting out of the public view and focusing on themselves.
Is she out on the road because she is promoting her book? I know Ive seen alot of people skype on Oprah instead of flying in from other parts of the country and the world. Cant Kate Skype? Is this travel necessary?Wouldnt the book sell without her going away ? Im just asking , Im not sure I understand all of this. Well in the end , I hope its all ok and her kids dont resent it.
I noticed a change in Kate's demeanor during the show's 'interview couch' time about mid-way through last season. There were several episodes where she was just all curled up and not talking a whole lot or as responsive with her interactions with Jon. At the time I thought, it must have been the move...blah blah blah. But I remember commenting to my husband, "there is something going on with her"...whether that something was the Aunt Jodi fuss or whether that was the Jon w/ co-ed photos, I don't know, but it's such a surreal moment when your suspicions of "trouble" come true. I also find it interesting though how this climax happens right in time for the last episode of the season. Guess we'll have to wait until Fall to see what happens!
Don't they sign some sort of contract that may commit them to a number of years of filming?
do they film during the summer?
Kate said they film all year round , in one her and Jon's talks in the chair. Anyone read Okay Magazine about them? ( I think it was that magazine)My daughter told me but I havent read it for myself.
I have never commented here-so here goes. I think they opened themselves up to this when they brought cameras into their lives. They wanted to be public figures (and reaped the rewards) for the good, but they have to know people will have just as much-if not more-interest when things go bad.
Do I think it's right? No, but I also don't think profitting off the show and then getting mad when people are prying into your private life is right either. You can't have it both ways.
It's really no different than any other celebrity out there, except they put their kids front and center in all of this on purpose. If they were worried about how negative speculation about their life would effect their children then they should not have brought cameras into their home.
And if they really don't like what is going on-then they should stop the show and hope they blend back into society and people forget about them and stop caring what they are doing.
They have benefited pretty greatly in all of this. Even if the world does find out their marriage is not the greatest (which did anyone really need rumors of John chasing college girls to figure that one out?) they still have a million dollar home out of it and Kate supposedly has a new career (not to mention all the freebies they got during the show). As you can tell I don't have any sympathy at all for them.
This was something Ive been thinking about for awhile now , and I hope I dont sound stupid, Im not a Dr or a shrink. I think sometimes people or couple do better when there is a struggle to make a bottme line together or that fight for the finish. Sometimes you hear people saying those were fun years when we were first married and struggling to get ahead. I think thats how Kate and Jon were, and now that they have some money and things (house) they are bored. They had the common thread of lets say cutting coupons , making the dollar last as best they could.Now its easy and they might be board and not know how to handle their lives. Its like thinking if I had more money I would be happy. Well would YOU? Sometimes money brings other kinds of problems, and for them now I think alot of their common thread to fight for a better life for their kids is gone. Remember Jon saying in "the chair" with Kate a couple times "I would do anything for my kids etc etc". Well IF what is being said is true , out and about with colleges kids ISNT the answer to that. Some of me agrees with many of you like Tracey, good points made, I think if there was camera in my house somtimes people would think Im a so and so too. But I just have a feeling they are sort of getting lost from the one big time commitment of the better good , now its all getting too easy for them. Does Kate really have to travel that much, and what new carrer does she have ? She wrote a book about what we basically know already? Oh well I didnt want to rant and rave and bash her or Jon, I think they should step back and reflect whats going on and what is best for the kids , they didnt ask to be born...... thats my 2 cents ... have a good day ...
An old friend of Jon's (not Kate's) speaks up (very interesting):http://tinyurl.com/oyqsfm
First, I want to say that I personaly believe that both Jon, and Kate, are great parents! As a woman with little help raising my kids, Jon is a refreshing change. I sometimes can't believe how involved he is in their lives. That said, if it was me, I would discontinue filming. It just doesn't seem worth the cost to their family. With the little kids in school now, both Jon and Kate could resume their careers. I think both they and the kids need some privacy. As much as I enjoy the show, and I do,it can't help the situation to be so in the public eye. And they could always choose to do a few specials in the future, which would update everyone on how the kids are getting along.
Jon was just 22 when they married. That is young for a guy. He likes sports and he is laid back. Kate was 24. Still young, and they just could not wait(Kate, maybe was the one who couldn't wait) to have children. They say she was a nurse. What kind? Was she an RN, or LPN/LVN, or nursing assistant. It makes a difference. She has some poise, she has major control issues, she is good with organization. They (she?)wanted more children. They got more than they (she?) bargained for. Frankly, Jon has had no young life. I think he feels trapped. He also is on record saying he really was sick of the cameras all the time. He is sweet with the kids. Apparently he has no close family nearby. Kate's family is not helpful. They are toast if they break up and Jon knows that. They need counseling, and lots of it. Kate needs to take a chill pill and she needs to back off her overbearing, critical ways. Honestly, it does not look good for them. As a woman, I feel for both of them, but feel more for Jon. If he were my son my heart would ache for him. And if only the public would just leave them both alone. Yes, they did agree to do this show, but as human beings, they need some privacy.
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